RCI Travel
RCI is the largest exchange company and many of the better known timeshare companies such as Wyndham, Bluegreen Resorts, HGVC, and Disney Vacation Club have this as their affiliated exchange membership. Many smaller independent timeshares are also affiliated through RCI.

In fact, if you are member of a mini-system such as Wyndham, you even have your own Wyndham RCI portal on the Wyndham Vacation Resorts website and your RCI annual fee is rolled into your regular Club Wyndham fees so you don’t have to pay a separate fee to Wyndham. This can actually save you money if you own some other timeshares as you can add them to your Wyndham-affiliated RCI account (or you can keep running a separate account in case you want to take advantage of features that aren’t available to Wyndham owners, such as RCI Platinum.)

Interval International
The other major timeshare exchange brand is Interval International. While they are not as large as RCI, they have a reputation for having high quality of resorts as part of their portfolio. You will find Four Seasons, Hyatt, Marriott, Diamond Resorts International and most Westgate timeshares are affiliated with Interval International.

Dual-Affiliated Timeshare Brands
There are also a fair number of dual-affiliated brands and resorts. For example, Worldmark resorts are usually dual-affiliated. And most Westin and Shearaton resorts are affiliated with Interval International, but you will find that some of them are dual-affiliated as well. Just make sure that if you are looking for a dual-affiliated resort to buy that you check on the status of that affiliation before you purchase. Relationships can certainly change!

If you have been a timeshare resort owner for awhile you are probably already aware that your timeshare is affiliated with one of the major timeshare exchange brands. Most resorts are affiliated with either RCI or Interval, but some resorts are also dual-affiliated which certainly makes it convenient to find suitable exchanges for your timeshare week or points. What you may not know is that you can choose to use an independent timeshare exchange company if that is your preference. Here are the different independent timeshare exchange companies you might consider for your next exchange.

Dial an Exchange
Dial an Exchange is a popular alternative to both RCI and Interval International with offices located in the US, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Europe and Asia. One nice feature about DAE is that they offer a free membership so you can easily sign up to explore their interface and see what they have to offer before you make any commitments. In addition, they also have a Gold membership level which provides a priority booking window for Gold members and it also gives gold members priority for on-going search. Gold costs $89 per year.

DAE provides a “Search First” feature which means you also don’t have to commit your week to exchange until you have found a vacation week that you would like. Like RCI, however, you will likely get the most desirable exchanges by depositing your own week first and then setting up an on-going search for the exact vacation you want. Once you deposit your week, it is good for three years, that’s one more year than what RCI offers.

Exchange Fees: In the US, domestic exchanges are $125 each and international exchanges are $150.

SFX Preferred Resorts
Previously known as the San Francisco Exchange, SFX offers three different membership levels. There free membership is the Gold level and while it should give you an idea of what SFX has to offer, it is a very limited program.

For example, gold members have only a nine month vacation search window and are unable to “Request First”. Diamond and Platinum members can both “Request First” before depositing a week and Diamon has a 24 month search window, while Platinum offers an 18 month search window . Deposits for diamond members are good for 36 months. For Gold and Platinum members, they are good for 24 months.

It should be noted as well, that at the Diamond and Platinum levels, SFX membership is actually more expensive than RCI.

Exchange Fees: Exchange fees also depend on your membership level. Gold members pay $189 for exchanges, Platinum members pay $159 and Diamond members pay $149.

Trading Places International
Trading Places International, unlike some of the other independent exchange companies, does not require you to be a member in order to do exchanges. You can search their inventory online or you can call them up, let them know what you have to exchange and what you would like in return and you only pay for the exchange if they are able to confirm it for you.

Deposits with Trading Places are good for two years from the arrival date of the week you deposited and you can request specific exchanges up to a year in advance.

Exchange Fees: Domestic Exchanges are $149 and International exchanges are $159.

Platinum Interchange
Like Trading Places, Platinum Interchange has no membership or annual fees. You simply pay to Exchange when you find a great trade. Request First is available as an option or you can also search their inventory. If you decide to Deposit first, your exchange week is good for up to two years from the start date of the banked week.

Exchange Fees: $129 for domestic exchanges and $149 for international.

Hawaii Timeshare Exchange
HTSE naturally specializes in Hawaiian timeshare exchanges, but since many of their deposits are from mainland and international timeshares, they are well worth looking into for other locations as well. They have the lowest exchange fees I’ve seen. Membership fees are $49 a year and bonus weeks are available if you are depositing a Hawaii week for a future year. You will need to be a member to view inventory.

Exchange Fees: $99 for Hawaii and the Mainland, $109 for International.

If you want to find one, keep your eyes open near the various exits of the different hotels. Near the valet desk is a good place to scout them out as I believe they are most interested in visitors who are hotel guests. The timeshare reps normally have a permanent desk set up so they aren’t that hard to find. Also, any time you come across a ‘raffle’ for hotel accomodation in Vegas, sign up. That is almost always going to be linked to a timeshare promotion.

You can expect two different types of offers in Vegas. The most common will likely be for attending a timeshare sales presentation on your current visit. Usually the enticement is coupons for dinner or shows in Vegas. I usually go with the dinner coupons since they will normally be good for several different hotels and I’m not interested in the kinds of shows they have in Vegas. But if dinner or show coupons don’t interest you, you can try pushing for cash or gift cards with no restrictions.

The other kind of timeshare promotion that is common in Las Vegas is the “bounce back”. Usually you will be offered a discounted rate to return to the same hotel you are currently staying at (such as the Golden Nugget) in exchange for attending a timeshare presentation on your next trip to Las Vegas. Generally, you will have six months to a year to return so if you are a regular visitor, it is a great deal. Normally, you can extend as well if you really need to (though that might cost a little extra money). To sweeten the deal, once you attend the presentation, you will get the value of the money you paid back in coupons to use for restaurants or shows. So basically, your Las Vegas hotel stay will only cost you your time.

Usually if you are going to sign up with an off-site Rep to go on a tour at one of the local Las vegas timeshare resorts, you will be requested to put down a deposit of $20. The first time I was asked for this I hesitated, but now that I have experienced the same thing in Orlando and done it a few times I have no worries about it. As long as you are sure you will attend, go ahead and put down the deposit. It will be returned to you at the gift desk after your timeshare presentation is over. The deposit helps the sales teams cut back on no shows.

This is a bit less of a sure thing, but another way to get in on deals for Las Vegas timeshare promotions is to make sure you have some rewards credit cards for the different hotel chains that have timeshare resorts in Vegas.

For example, I have a Hilton Honors Visa card and Hilton Grand Vacations Club has a resort on the Las Vegas strip. Well recently I was able to take advantage of a Hilton timeshare promotion while on phone call making reservations with a Hampton Inn (a Hilton affiliate). After finishing up my reservation call, I was transferred to an agent who offered me a great deal to stay at their resort in Vegas for two nights, with the caveat that I attend their two hour presentation. It was a bit random, but having the Hilton Honors card certainly got me on their radar and I’m sure at some point I will receive a solicitation by mail as well.

If you have any tips on locations and ways to scout out additional Las Vegas timeshare promotions, such as hotels where you know the timeshare reps have a desk, let me know in the comments. Also just make sure that if you do go on a timeshare tour, don’t get pressured into signing on the dotted line. And if it does happen, well be sure to submit your timeshare cancellation as quickly as possible. Nevada’s rescission law gives you a 5 day window to cancel the contract.

For example, if you’ve never stayed at a timeshare before it may be a big surprise to you that there is no daily housekeeping service. For many of us who own timeshares, this is actually one of the primary advantages, but if you are used to the daily bed-making and tidying it can be a bit disconcerting. I like it because it means there is no one coming to your room every day to interrupt whatever you might be doing. I hate that knock on the door in the morning before I’ve even had my shower. And sometimes I forget to leave the card hanging on the door. But with timeshares, daily housekeeping is generally not provided.

Trash and Towel Service
What you can expect is that there will be a trash and towel service mid-week if you are staying at least 7 nights. For this service, someone will either come to the door and exchange towels with you and collect any trash bags — or they will come into the unit and exchange all of the towels for you and empty all of the trash bins and replace the bags.

Daily Housekeeping for a Fee
If you really want daily housekeeping, or just need the room extra-tidy on a particular day, at most resorts you can pay extra for the service. Expect to spend between $30 and $50 per day, depending on the resort and timeshare brand.

A Fully Stocked Kitchen
Another great advantage of timeshares is the fully stocked kitchen. Even when I have stayed in small studio units, I rarely have to purchase anything to do some cooking. The only exception has been at the Disney DVC villas, where the studio units are rather meagerly stocked. They usually have a microwave, toaster and small college-sized fridge, with no oven or stovetop. Also, paper plates and plastic knives and forks. Thankfully, they do provide real ceramic coffee cups for your morning fix. The larger Disney units, however, are properly stocked just like any other timeshare you would visit.

At most resorts, you will have enough dishes to meet the room occupancy level (in other words, if the unit can have 9 guests, then there will be 8 dinner settings, but if the unit only can have 4 guests, you will have four dinner settings). There will be frying pans and baking dishes and the cooking utensils you need, such as spatulas, measuring cups, etc. You will certainly have a toaster, microwave and coffee maker as well. In fact, usually there will be some small packages of coffee, enough for your first day or two in the unit and possibly your salt and pepper. Wyndham timeshare resorts actually includes tiny salt and pepper shakers that you can either throw out or take with you at the end of your stay. They also usually include at least one microwave bag of popcorn and hot cocoa, which is a nice touch.

In many of the timeshares that I have stayed at, basic cleaning supplies are included as well, so there is no need to buy paper towels, scrub brushes, dish-washing liquid or laundry detergent. Everything should be on hand. Since on occasion there are things that you might expect to be provided, but aren’t, I usually save my shopping trip to the local supermarket until after check-in. In fact, that is the first thing I do after checking in and putting away all my luggage. I first check the kitchen and bathroom to see if there’s anything additional I need, then I check to see if it is on the inventory for the timeshare, which will usually be found in the resort guide in your unit. If there is anything that should be provided, but isn’t I’ll make a quick call to housekeeping to have it sent over. Anything that isn’t provided, but that I need gets added to my shopping list and then I go to find the nearest supermarket. I turn the ice maker on before I leave (or fill the ice trays) and so by the time I get back I have some ice and can pour myself a nice cold drink

Washer and Dryer
Whether a washer and dryer is available in your unit usually depends on the size of the timeshare you have booked. If you stay in a one or two bedroom unit, then generally you can expect that the unit will have a washer and dryer in it. If you book studios, it is a fair bet that they won’t. I don’t think I’ve ever stayed in a studio timeshare that had a washer/dryer combo. The convenience alone may be worth upgrading to at least a one bedroom unit, even if only two of you are going on this trip.

Activities
Nearly all the best timeshare resorts will have lots of activities planned throughout the week, depending on the season. Most resorts will have an assortment of activities for kids and adults and some will be free and others will have a nominal charge. You can expect things like ice cream socials or jewelry making for the kids, or water aerobics in the pool each morning. Some resorts may even handle tours off-site for a fee, which would make avoiding a car rental convenient. Some resorts are fully self-contained and you honestly would never have to leave the resort during your vacation. For example, Sheraton Vistana Villages in Orlando has restaurants, pool bars and a food shop on-site and plenty of activities that would keep you busy. Or you can spend your days just relaxing by the pool. The Orange Lake Resort Orlando also has tons of amenities, activities, entertaining shows, a restaurant and their own golf course and tennis courts for a truly self-contained resort. But I bet you will still want to spend at least a day or two at Disney World!

One of the biggest things you have to consider is when your usage dates are. If you have usages dates that are in the off season, this will greatly affect the amount of money you can get for your timeshare. If your dates are in the prime season, it is possible to end up with an amazing deal when you go to sale. Another thing you should keep an eye on is who you are going through to sell the timeshare unit. There are a lot of companies that you need to be wary of; they will want you to commit to an upfront payment before they will even start attempting to sell your timeshare. Watch out for these companies.

One of the best ways to go is by listing your timeshare unit on eBay. This allows you to set a decent price and have people bid on it so that you can see what people are willing to pay for your timeshare. If you list your unit on eBay, you should make sure to include the location of the timeshare and the dates that they can use it. There should be no hidden information for the person that is bidding on your unit, whatsoever. Ebay timeshare resales are quite popular, but you will also want to keep in mind that most of these buyers are pretty savvy. So do not overprice your timeshare or you will end up having to relist it.

Other line online sites you can use to sell your timeshare include Timeshare Users Group, Bidshares, and Redweek. These are all places that are frequented by people in search of timeshares to purchase. Your unit has a great chance of selling on any of those sites.

If you decide to go with a company that specializes in timeshare selling make sure they are members of the ARDA (American Resort Development Association), as they have rules that must be followed to make sure the selling of your timeshare is ethical and above board. You should also do some research into the timeshare laws of your state as well as the state where your timeshare unit is located in the event that it is located in a different state. There are many more things that you will need to be aware of when you go to sell your timeshare, and this information is fairly easy to find online. Taking a bit of time to research the information you need to know can make all the difference in the world as to the price you are able to get for your timeshare unit.

With that in mind, and since I have actually used Ebay to buy a timeshare, I thought I would share some of my tips for buying timeshares on Ebay with you. If you are able to be diligent about checking into things and holding out for just the right bargain, you can really bring down your vacation costs dramatically by picking up some Ebay timeshares. Just be careful you don’t become addicted to the experience, because selling a timeshare when you own one too many isn’t nearly as easy as buying one! And also, keep in mind that buying a timeshare on Ebay is not like buying from a developer. There is no rescission period for buying in the secondary market so a timeshare cancellation letter will not help you. Best to keep your finger off the Buy button if you can’t control yourself!

Before you even figure out what you want, it is not a bad idea of browse through the Ebay timeshares for sale to get a good idea of exactly what is on offer. They actually have a convenient Timeshare Finder which allows you to browse by State, type of location (attractions, beaches, and mountains), the specific timeshare calendar week and number of bedrooms and bathrooms.  They even have a search for “Demand Color Code” but I advise that you skip that search as I find that the demand color code is really not specific enough. For example, Florida is “RED” year round, but if you know anything about timeshares you know that Florida is overbuilt and that it is very easy to book a vacation week there with certain exceptions throughout the year. You are better off looking at specific weeks instead for Florida.

You’ll notice when you browse that prices are all over the map. You can see timeshares listed for auction starting at $1 and up into the thousands. If you check the winning bids, you’ll also notice that most of the $1 timeshares never sell. That’s because they are junk. Their true timeshare value doesn’t even manage to cover the dollar! In most cases those very cheap timeshares aren’t worth the closing fees because they are lousy weeks, undesirable resorts and/or locations. If you see some $1 listings that look desirable, yet didn’t sell, they probably have inflated closings costs and transactions fees attached – or maybe the resort imposed a special assessment that needs to be paid by the new owner.

As you can see, the Ebay listings are littered with hazards and the occasional landmine, but the savvy buyer can find great deals as long as you take your time and can discover where the land mines are. You can even find some great Ebay timeshare rentals, if you are not in the market to buy and just need a week’s vacation.

Here are my tips for finding great Ebay timeshares

1. Decide What You Want to Buy – you have lots of options on Ebay, so you might want to ignore the site for a bit and find out a bit more about all the different timeshare companies out there and what they have to offer. Do you want a fixed week timeshare or would you prefer the more flexible timeshare points? What brand’s destinations appeal to you? Worldmark and Bluegreen are active on opposite coasts from each other.
2. Set Your Budget – Once you know what you are looking for , it is time to set a budget. Make sure that budget includes your closing costs and any final transaction fees. These can often add up to $400 or more on top of the final Winning Bid price, so keep them in mind. I bought a package of Royal Holiday Club points on Ebay for $100, but then had about $600 in fees on top of that, making my total outlay $700. That was still a bargain, but if I’d thought I was getting a timeshare for $100 I would have been sorely disappointed.
3. Filter Your Listings and/or Set Up Notification – Once you have decided what you want and how much you are willing to pay, it is only a matter of time. Unless you are looking for a specific resort, most of the time all you need to do is wait and eventually what you want will turn up on Ebay. Even for some resorts, that’s true. You’ll notice on this site, that I’ve set up the pages so you can browse listings by Brand and by popular locations. You can just come back and check on those or you can go to Ebay and set up Notifications. Say for example you want to buy 6000 Worldmark credits, but you don’t see any listed at the right price point. You can set Ebay to notify you anytime new listings are added with the parameters you have in mind. Take advantage of this because it is a lot easier that constantly searching every day.
4. Do your Due Diligence – Once you find some likely listings on Ebay, don’t just put the timeshare in your Watch List and forget about it until the final auction day. Get in touch with the owner and ask questions. Ask if you can contact the Resort to confirm the details listed in the auction. You want to make sure there are no maintenance fees past due and you want to make sure the contract details match what the resort has on file.
5. Get Ready to Enjoy your Timeshare – Now once you have all the paperwork done it is time for the “big wait”. Timeshares can often take months to close. That doesn’t necessarily mean you have to delay making travel plans however. Many resorts will allow you to schedule your trip while your paperwork is still in process. Sometimes the seller will need to take care of this for you, but if the location is popular (or your dates are) it is well worth taking the time to make sure you have your trip locked in.

For example, Wyndham is far larger than Disney Vacation Club, with many more resorts in their portfolio. I happen to own both. And I can certainly tell you which membership makes me happier — DVC, without a doubt. Of course, I think the Wyndham resorts themselves are great and they do have some of the best timeshares, such as Bonnet Creek. It is really their policies and practices that get on my nerves. I really hate being pestered to attend an “owners update” every single time I go visit a Wyndham property, so they can try and tell me how much resale purchase sucks and that I need to buy directly from them to get the most value. I don’t think so.

Timeshare resales are the way to go and as far as I’m concerned, the way that Wyndham devalues in the secondary marketplace is exactly why I would never recommend buying at one of their sales presentations. All of their so-called “perks” for getting to VIP level are either 1.) not worth the many thousands of dollars they want; and/or 2.) can disappear tomorrow. They are perks only. When it comes to timeshares, the basic truth is that if it isn’t in your contract, it can diseappear tomorrow and this is especially true of discounts.

That said, what then makes a top timeshare company. In terms of size, you are looking at Wyndham and Westgate. Wyndham is largest and also owns RCI and Worldmark. Between Wyndham and Worldmark there are close to 150 resorts, though the memberships aren’t exactly interchangeable. Worldmark resorts are “associate” resorts for Wyndham members, and I believe the availability is limited. I’m pretty sure Westgate would be next in size.

In addition to these behomeths, you have Marriott Vacation Club with over 50 resorts; Hilton Grand Vacations Club with just under 50 resorts; BlueGreen Resorts, also over 50 resorts in their chain. I believe Diamond International is quite sizeable as well, though I don’t know how many of the 144 resorts they claim are actually branded. I think they work somewhat like Royal Holiday Club in that they have a lot of “associate” resort properties.

For the smaller timeshare brands you have Hyatt Vacation Club, Starwood Vacation Ownership, Disney Vacation Club and Shell Vacations Club, which are all smaller — with DVC being the smallest with only 11 resorts. Though Disney appears to be on something of a building spree, so we’ll see how many resorts they have 10 years from now.

Now, if you want to take a look at individual resort groups to figure out what ownership might suit you best, be sure to take a look at my individual pages for each of the major brands. Deciding which company has the best timeshare resorts is a very personal decision that has a lot to do with your needs, but if you are looking for the best timeshare to own and high qualty accommodations you can’t go wrong with either Marriott and HGVC. Personally, I think the DVC resorts are very high quality too, but many Marriott owners would argue differently. DVC units do tend to a smaller size compared to some other resorts.

I’ve been slowly expanding the list to cover all of the smaller resort companies as well and eventually I hope the overview will be comprehensive.

Timeshare Calendar 2011 – PDF version

Most timeshare companies and resort offers some kind of timeshare promotion in order to get you in the door to take a look at what they have to offer. While this may be a free night or two in a hotel close by, there are some that offer a little bit more to entice you.

It might be surprising to hear that a company might offer you 3 days and 2 nights in Las Vegas just to sit through a 90 minute presentation. But, with the economy the way it is, a little bargaining could mean that this could be sweetened with a couple of tickets to some Las Vegas shows. This little incentive usually works to get people to at least show up for the timeshare presentation.

When these resorts and companies offer timeshare promotions, they already know that 8 out of 9 people are not actually prepared to purchase the timeshare. They are aware, more than some other industries, that in this day and age, having the money to focus on a timeshare vacation spot just is not something people are able to manage. That does not stop them from offering great promotions, though. They realize that the 8 people that did not buy this time are more likely to come back when things start to turn around, and they will get another chance to sell to them.

So, the next time you get an offer to go on a timeshare tour, feel free to negotiate with the salesperson and try to get a better timeshare promotion offer. If you just do not see how a couple of free or discounted nights in a hotel can get you to the presentation, tell them. They will more than likely sweeten the deal a bit just to get you to go. With the price of gas rising every day, being able to take your loved one on a mini vacation for less than $200 is actually a pretty good deal. You can purchase the plane tickets for the price you will save on the hotel room.

If you decide to take the timeshare tour that is offered, you should be aware that most, if not all, have some kind of fee associated with cancelling or rescheduling your tour. There are a few companies that will offer you a full refund of your money if you cancel the tour within a set amount of time, but for the most part, they charge you some kind of fee first. You might also be out all of the money you put down for the tour if you cancel. So, keep this in mind.

A timeshare presentation can be one of the most highly pressured sales pitches you have ever attended. The sales people are trying desperately to get you to purchase the timeshare and nearly all timeshare salespeople work on commission. By pressuring you to buy, they feel you will have a harder time in saying no.

There are laws that have been put into place for actions like this, in the case of buyers’ remorse, that allow you to rescind a timeshare purchase, but they vary from state to state and even by country. You should never feel pressured to purchase anything. If you want it, then go ahead and buy it. If not, then you can walk away after the presentation.

Most timeshare tours are offered by a resort every year. They will set up a time for you to arrive and have a sales representative meet with you. After you sit through the presentation, the sales rep will take you to either a standard model or a show model of the timeshare they are encouraging you to purchase. They will walk you through everything it has to offer, including the amenities or the resort itself. If you like what you see and you think it will benefit you; the sales rep will discuss costs and fees with you at that time.

Many times people can get caught up in the moment and fail to “sleep on it” before making a decision. This should be considered a major purchase and, as such, should be taken seriously enough to think about before signing on the dotted line.

I strongly recommend never buying a timeshare during the presentation itself. Whatever deal they are offering you will be available later, especially in this economy. And for the most part you can buy nearly any timeshare much cheaper as a resale. So don’t succumb to pressure. It is always a good idea to go home and do a little investigating before you make any decisions. Just take a look at any timeshare auction on Ebay or listed here on this site and you will see how much money you can save by buying from a former owner.

There are even some states that are preparing to make it a law that these companies cannot claim timeshares as being an investment opportunity and of course most of these states allow you to cancel timeshare contract terms after the initial buy (within a certain period of time) because of the unscrupulous behavior that happens at some sales presentations.

But the real question is: What is the value of a timeshare and how does it affect resale pricing?

The real hassle in timeshare values comes when you are trying to sell your unit and you want to get more out of it than what you put into it. You have to write up all the fees that are contained in your timeshare; everything from property taxes, if any, to cleaning fees and member fees for the resort. Then, you have the fun of figuring out how much it is going to cost you to get it listed and sold by a reputable company. Although you can sell it yourself by listing it on certain websites and in EBay timeshare auctions or on other auction sites, this can be even more of a hassle for the first time seller.

When you are figuring up the timeshare values of your unit, you should check the local vicinity to see what other options are available and what their values are. If you have a timeshare condo in Florida, for example, you can see what other comparable timeshares are selling for on a site like Ebay by checking completed auctions. You might even be able to find the exact same type of unit in the same building if someone else is selling theirs and base your value close to that one. Just be sure to base your value on a unit that actually SELLS. Many timeshare owners over-value their units and thus they sit on “To Sell” lists or sites forever, never moving or even garnering interest from savvy buyers.

Finding the resale value of your timeshare can be daunting, especially if you have never sold a timeshare before. You can get real estate companies that specialize in timeshare resales to do all the work for you, but you will have to pay them a small fortune when it goes to closing. True timeshare values have nothing to do with money, as stated above. It is in the dates that you can use the property and the amount of pleasure that you and your family get from the location, so keep these in mind as well. If you have a top timeshare companies like a Marriott or Disney timeshare, you will naturally be able to get a better price out of it as they are of a higher caliber than other units and they tend to hold their resale value because both companies actively exercise their rights to first refusal. (This means if the price gets too low, DVC, for example, will just buy the unit from the seller for the agreed upon price and then sell it to someone on their waiting list – for full retail price!)

Consider all of these things when you decide to buy or sell a timeshare. If there is anything that you are not sure about, you should consult with someone who is more knowledgeable than you. This ensures that you will do things the best way.